Teribus - please don't quote me when all you want to do is be nasty. Jim & Steve & I are having a perfectly civil discussion. We don't need you weighing in with typical invective, thank you. Especially, I don't need you using me to validate your narrow-minded authority. Yes, you are often right (not always, despite what you think). But the one thing you've never managed to fucking understand is that it is better to get your point across than to be abrasively right. If the other side doesn't agree, it is still better that they understand your point of view, than that you can sit there in smug isolated righteousness. For an intelligent & knowledgeable man, you are, all too often, remarkably stupid & blind.

Jim (& Steve) - reply (ies) noted. I will get back to you. For various reasons (alcohol may be involved) not today! ;-)