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Thread #160877   Message #3820872
Posted By: Teribus
16-Nov-16 - 02:38 AM
Thread Name: BS: No poppies for me
Subject: RE: BS: No poppies for me
Yes Shaw annual trolling, by you and the "usual suspects", wasn't last years topical troll something about the RBL Festival of Remembrance, and the year before that the display at the Tower of London and no doubt next year you will come up with another.

Ah yes Jom your pal Tommy Kenny who you and three others tape recorded for three days wasn't it? So interested were you in the story the man told that:

1: You checked nothing pertaining to that story at all.

2: You couldn't tell me which branch of the Army he served in.

3: You couldn't tell me where he served and when.

4: Tommy Kenny's story was introduced to back up the "fairy tale" that British Soldiers were subject to summary execution in the field, yet not one instance of such has ever been detailed, not one single name of one single soldier who suffered such a fate has been recorded, not even by their "mates", peculiarly by their "mate" Tommy Kenny.

5: The myth about special execution squads of Military Police who shot soldiers who did not get out of the trenches quick enough (In all the film footage covering the First World War on our screens at the moment it can plainly be seen that that would have been impossible as there is simply not the room).

6: Tommy's yarn about men all ready convicted and sentenced to death being put in the front line and ordered over the top and if they did manage to come back being executed - Impossible - Why? - Because according to the Army Act if you are under punishment you cannot bear arms - For fairly bloody obvious reasons I would have thought. Why do I know that it is a "fairy tale"? Because again not a single name can be produced.

Carroll bangs on about dishonest behaviour ( Now that he has more or less admitted that he cannot find a single example of me ever having lied on this forum) but how dishonest is this:

This is the feller who call veterans whose reminiscences don't tie up with his jingoism "liars"

One story about one veteran, a story introduced by Jim Carroll, that has holes all over it and which is riddled with errors and inconsistencies. So I must call all veterans "liars" whose reminiscences don't tally with "FACT" - jingoism doesn't enter into it - That Jim is dishonest behaviour if ever I encountered it, an argument based entirely on false assumptions.

Now to get back to that story, the one that continually changed as the glaring faults in it were pointed out, until we get the snippet that Tommy Kenny may have served with the Artillery because of a wound he received (Lost bits of his ear IIRC). Then all went deadly quiet when it was explained to Carroll that artillery was never placed in the front line it is always positioned behind the lines and in that position how on earth could Tommy Kenny have seen what was going on in the front lines. Truth was of course he couldn't and didn't. No longer interested in what the latest duly altered version of the tale is, it has changed too many times now to be credible.