I have found that conservatives are seldom wrong in debate they deal in verifiable facts whereas socialist, of whom I am one, are hardly ever right.


The reason of course is that conservatives see the world as it is and actually believe what they espouse, we on the other hand see the world as we would like it to be and only a tiny minority understand or truly believe in our stated views.

I admit to enjoying Teribus putting you all through the mincer...I know its a sin against "liberalism".......but I cant help it.

It's the desperation which takes over when you realise he has you cornered and there is nothing for it but turn tail and run.
That's when the attempts to get the thread closed start.....highly entertaining.