As disingenuous as ever DtG.

Dave the Gnome - 08 Dec 16 - 05:02 PM

1: What rancour? I pointed out that you appeared to be ignorant {In the true sense of the word} of the details of the subject under discussion and you agreed that I was in fact right:

"That is all I knew about it so, yes, in one way you are right. I was ignorant, in the true sense of the word, of the events being discussed."

2: "Are we now saying that a report into a top University's Labour society, that was never published but was leaked to the right wing press is indicative of serious anti-Semitism in the Labour party?

I don't know about "WE" DtG but that is certainly what Baroness Royall and Labour's National Executive Committee thought.

I'll take the following points 3, 4 & 5 together

3: "Do you believe that anti-Semitism is more prevalent within the Labour party than in any other organisation? If so, what brings you to that conclusion and what makes you believe that Labour supporters are more likely to be anti-Semitic than any other cross section of society?"

4: The only argument I have ever put forward is (Strange thing to say considering the first five words of your second paragraph - "I am not arguing anything") that I believe that the Labour party is not likely be any different to any other large group. That is not arguing form ignorance but from a lifetime of experience with people from all walks of life."

5: "How can it be any worse with them than say, the Conservatives, Liberals, UKIP or any other party (Excluding extremists of any persuasion of course)"

Decide for yourself the following evidence:

(a) How many other people who are members of any political party have publicly resigned because they feel intimidated attending meetings of their own political party? Documented cases of this from members of the Labour Party.

(b) How many constituency party organisations have been suspended and prohibited from holding meetings by the governing bodies of those political parties? Documented cases of Labour's NEC doing exactly this, most notable being the Wallasey Constituency Labour Party where on mounting her Leadership challenge to Jeremy Corbin Wallasey Labour MP Angela Eagle was threatened, intimidated and subjected to homophobic abuse by Corbyn supporters. Four other Constituency Labour Party organisations have also been suspended.

(c) Baroness Royall was tasked with looking into anti-Semitism (Racism by Labour's definition) within the Oxford University Labour Club. Her findings resulted in 11 recommendations some of whom she detailed as requiring urgent and immediate action - what other political party has had to do the same? Baroness Royall's report was taken so seriously by Labour's NEC that a second investigation was commissioned to look into allegations of misogyny, intimidation, racism and homophobia throughout the entire Party structure - what other political party has found the need to do that? Those actions were not taken because there was no evidence of those charges to be found - you do not attempt to suppress a report that exonerates your organisation, I would rather have thought that you'd trumpet it to the world - Labour's NEC didn't do that - WHY?