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Thread #160410   Message #3825387
Posted By: Jim Carroll
09-Dec-16 - 04:25 AM
Thread Name: BS: Labour party discussion
Subject: RE: BS: Labour party discussion
"Good heavens Shaw, still banging on about this two years down the line eh? You must be really short of ammunition. "
This is exactly what you do on this forum Teribus - you are still fighting world war one from two years back, still telling us that the result of the Irish Famine had nothing to do with British policy from about four years ago and still claiming that the ammunition sold to Syria was the wrong size to be used by Assad's snipers....... all to recoup long lost arguments and prove those who argue with you are stupid liars and purveyors of "made-up shit"
And you are still talking down to people from your superior position as a mental midget.
It happens every time a thread grinds to a stalemate - you and your mates go at your opponents like a pack of rats at the throat - Keith has just had another try at smearing my with his own antisemitism, as he has done at least once before.
Let's move back to the subject and leave Wheatcroft, Clark and Taylor to the clay of history.
I don't agree that the Labour Party report was indicative of serious antisemitism in the Labour party - if it had been we would have been told of what that antisemitism was in great detail - by the victims of that antisemitism, by the Israeli press who were out to get Corbyn for his support of B.D.S. (especially as these accusations have their roots in Israel and are even accepted by the Israeli press as being about criticism of Israeli policy) - and most of all, by the right-wing press, which has been the sworn enemy of Corbyn from day one.
Other than one member's possible lapse of judgement, no description of the offence Labour has been accused of has been forthcoming - that is how serious these charges are.
Criticism of Israel is not antisemitism, by definition, as much as the Israeli regime might like it to be.
B.D.S. is not antisemitic either - as far as I am concerned, it is on par with the South African boycott that helped to bring the Apartheid regime to its knees - mor power to it's elbow, as far as I am concerned - I'll donate to it and listen to what it has to say, and take part in its demonstrations, given the opportunity.
Of course there is antisemitism in the Labour Party - and every of the political party -
Labour has a long history of opposing it and the Left movement in Britain was built with the assistance of emigré Jews fleeing the European pogroms.
If the three people here still claim there to be a serious problem with Labour, they need to produce the facts of it in detail and not a string of accusations from people like Tom Watson, Vice Chairman of Labour's Friends of Israel and a vociferous opponent of B.D.S. and the right wing opponents of Corbyn.
What form does this antisemitism take and how many are involved? -
That is the only way we can possibly make a judgement on whether there is a serious problem - accusations from tainted claimants don't hack it.
Jim Carroll