*grin*..once, maybe 5 years ago..WAY before Mudcat...I was in a chatroom, when someone typed "oh, SHIT, my kid just spilled grape juice on the rug! It's ruined!"I opened a new browser, did a search...found a formula for dealing with grape juice stains...and posted the cut 'n pasted answer, and the source link..all in less than 2 minutes....made me sort of famous in them there days....