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Thread #160410   Message #3826181
Posted By: Jim Carroll
13-Dec-16 - 06:59 AM
Thread Name: BS: Labour party discussion
Subject: RE: BS: Labour party discussion
You have been given half a dozen references to Bulldozers being used to dig mass graves - you have nit-picked with one, but in fact Mobil actually refers to using bulldozers.
You have been supplied a dozen times with different news items stating that Israeli bulldozers were found to be on site digging mass graves (Israel actually admitted to only one in their own enquiry into the massacre, it was found that ten were used)
From the articles supplied:
"afterwards, they would bring the bulldozers to bury the people"
Ad Ma Hawil
"U.S. lend-lease bulldozers were used to dig graves for the prisoners"
Magadan
"Bulldozers used by the Indonesian military to dig mass graves"
Yadana
"Bulldozers being used to dig graves"
Mobil Gas Fields
"Bulldozers being used to raze houses on their occupants, whether dead or living, and to dig mass graves"
Sabra Shatila
"the bulldozers used to dig the mass graves"
Bosnia
To miss something occasionally is a mistake, to continually deny something from different sources from different accounts is simple dishonesty - agenda-driven lying.
You persistently request examples of your lying and I respond with lists - here's another half dozen - let's see how you deal with them
Perhaps it's worth remembering what this is really about (apart from your trying to make me out a liar or stupid – somewhat backfired here).
This arose from the fact that, after supplying weapons, access to the camp, transport, illumination and eventually, means of escape for the Falangists who spent three days massacring, raping and disembowelling up to 3,500 unarmed refugees and turning refugees attempting to escape, back into the arms of their killers, The Israeli Army assisted in digging the mass graves in order to hide their participation in this massive war crime, and eventually made most of this evidence inaccessible by building s sports stadium over them.
This atrocity was overseen by Menachem Begin, a man who was later recognised as being a fine, responsible human being and statesman by being made Prime Minister of Israel
This is what you are actually defending, not what machines were used for the job.
Your openly stupid denial of a proven fact and your wriggling attempt to hide your stupidity makes you what you are.
You are not even very good at it - at least Keith trawls up unread "real historians who sell their real books in real bookshops" to cover his efforts.
Maybe it's time you came to terms with your limitations?
Jim Carroll