And Joe I was mostly rambling about our attempts at means of organising and presenting information rather than the quality of information.

To me, I don't see any reason why Wikipedia should not be good on the latter and contributors may include Mudcatters as well as people we don't know about. I can be suspicious of the treatment of controversial topics (eg some politcs) on Wikipedia but I think most people would want to pull together with folk songs.

On the former all things other things being equal, I'd choose Wikepidia. I know there are the dt study threads and threads may be cross referenced by you but I think it could take a while to get to the latest corrected information an there is the chance that may not even be found.

At worst I suppose I could liken it to my (so far failed) attempts to get a particular rtl8821 wifi/bluetooth dongle working on Linux. Lot's of information in various threads for different distributions and it can take some time to pick out what may be worth trying. hat particular problem arguably has one advantage though - I will know if I hit on the particular correct (for me) solution (if it exists - I doubt it) by a simple (although time consuming) test - verification is simply "it works!". But maybe I'm being a bit too harsh on MC there.

Recordings sound a good idea but you either need some means of hosting them yourself (which i guess these days could be your own Youtube page?) or be able to check/correct/replace links to external sites.

I think perhaps the closest we came to that one was a link generated on the song title to what was originally a gracenote (which IIRC we hit trouble with Sony ownership and had to find an alternative) search for CDs/Dvd recordings.

The page for displaying a song also had a search into the Roud Index to find other documents containing the song. So what we tried to offer was the song from a "documented source" with at least some links for follow up. I'm not sure if it still exists for your site (I think I provided an update on closure) was a link from the VWML to our songs - they had a page on our site that generated a comma separated list of Round numbers and updated based on that.

Oh well I can't stop rambling on.... I like your work on the Rise Up Singing.