Jom, Shaw, just because newspaper reporters get things wrong en-masse does not make what they write the truth no matter how many times they write it. I know that you do not recognise this fact of life as you Carroll employ this tactic on just about every thread you contribute to.

The debate in parliament was about allocating £40 billion to build four submarines to replace our four Vanguard-Class SSBNs that carry our existing Trident II D-5 ballistic missiles.

Please tell us all if the vote was about renewing Trident what is going to be "renewed" - Trident D-5 is currently scheduled to remain in service until 2042.