'Spaw, Well, I did have to have my '70 D-35 Compleatly reglued about 15 years ago, and was told at the time that it was the only example of that vintage the man had seen that didn't play like a truck{his words}, so maybe I was lucky. Perhaps Takemine had the same effect on Martin that Nissan and Toyota had on Ford. Mike, backpeddling and ducking