Teribus, bobad made the assertion that "Jews are targeted more than all other religious groups combined in most of the western world today." You fully supported that statement. Well so far all I've managed to squeeze out of both of you is some information about the US that listed a pretty tiny number of alleged hate crimes that failed to specify what kinds of crimes they were, whether they were in fact religion-based at all and what proportion of them were ever prosecuted leading to conviction. Then we have some slightly better information from an Australian website but which still did not specify how the alleged crimes were delineated and which still did not provide the information needed to confirm that the crimes outnumbered all those against other religious groups combined in most of the western world. I'm a patient man and I don't mind trying time and again to get you to focus on a matter that you have championed. I am interested to hear from you that you can confirm the matter. It won't disadvantage me in any way if you prove to be correct and it will inform further debate. It's a pity that you can only resort to bluster, sidetracking and offensive comment. You must think that the people on this forum are all idiots. Well some of us can focus and see right through you. Try focussing yourself. You'll do your shattered reputation a power of good.