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Thread #161819   Message #3848273
Posted By: Joe Offer
03-Apr-17 - 12:56 AM
Thread Name: ADD: If You Haven't Got a Penis then you can't...
Subject: RE: ADD: If You Haven't Got a Penis then you can't...
Somebody questioned the validity of the ordination, and this is the answer from the prospective Womanpriest:

Dear Denis,

The Vatican still holds to the belief that women, because of their
composition as females (and lack of a particular appendage), cannot serve
in a ministerial capacity. That wasn't always true, and our movement for
women's ordination within the Roman Catholic Church has been ordaining
women and others who are shut out of the church, including LGBTQ and
married applicants, provided they complete the theological studies required.

The first six women were ordained by a male archbishop in international
waters in the Danube... his identity is not known in the outside world, and
I won't find out who he is until my ordination, and then am sworn to
secrecy. Father Roy Bourgeois, who founded SOAW, (the School of the
Americas Watch) was excommunicated for attending and supporting the
ordination of a woman priest (who happens to have been my program companion
throughout this period while I was studying for ordination).

In early times women were ordained, there are mentions of deaconesses, and
in the Catacombs the Priscilla Catacomb shows women wearing the garb and
clearly ministering.
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150224-the-secrets-of-the-catacombs

Francis, who is doing amazing work with the original intent of the
Palestinian Jew who was a subversive fighter against Empire, has called a
commission to study bringing back female deacons. He can only do so much,
and I am grateful for the work he is doing.

I am a liberation theology child... I learned liberation theology from a
priest in the Dominican Republic, was born and lived in Cuba at the time of
the Revolution, and went to college in Puerto Rico, where the CIA was a
constant companion... For me there is no problem with being a social
activist and anarchist/socialist revolutionary and being Roman Catholic,
but I think the Roman Catholic Church is wrong on this issue, and an old
but still valid concept, the primacy of conscience, allows me to choose to
serve now, in whatever way I can. Of course, technically, the official RC
Church says that by serving as ordained ministers we are "excommunicating
ourselves."

Silvia