Ah Gnome - you obviously haven't read Jim's link either - suggest that you do, along with some history of Germany 1933 to 1939 - then and only then will you have some feel for the situation.

You will find that:

- German Jews considered themselves to be Germans first and foremost and loyal Germans at that.

- Zionists inside Germany represented a tiny minority of Germany's Jewish population.

- The World Zionist Organisation was extremely vocal in their opposition of Nazi erosion of the rights of German Jews.

- Zionist organisations inside Germany found themselves as the only "organised Jews" in a country where their predicament could only be described as having one foot in the grave and the other on a banana skin. They theorised and cobbled together proposal after proposal to offer the Nazis that would allow Germany's Jews to leave - all were discussed, but the Nazis never had any intention whatsoever of entering into any real negotiations, they just kept offering that glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel - it served to keep the Jews quiet - the Nazis wanted their wealth and their businesses.

- There was no collaboration between the Nazis and the Zionist organisations inside Germany, as stated above it was the latter who tried desperately to enter into negotiations with the Nazis to save Jewish lives that traffic was strictly one way.


National Socialists were dissembling lying bastards wondered where you, Shaw and Carroll got it from.