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Thread #161452   Message #3850438
Posted By: Jim Carroll
14-Apr-17 - 04:26 AM
Thread Name: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
"OH JOY "
You people really are something else
You bust a gut demanding that we adhere to a law on antisemitism that has been invented by politicians to protect a terrorist state, yet on the other hand mount your own racist attacks on communities that don't suit your own bigoted tastes "rape implanted Muslims", "brainwashed Irish children", "slave-owning Travellers" - and now the oldest one in the book FLY-TIPPING.
For crying out loud have you no imagination beyond dredging the scummy bum-wipe press for racial smears?
It seems to happen every time another of your claims goes down in flames.
Fly- tipping in Britain is a common practice both by Travellers and the settle community in Britain - there are literally hundreds of shady London businesses which offer to dispose of your unwanted rubbish, take it away and illegally dump it.
A few were run by Travellers when the law allowed them to stop for a few weeks before moving them on but there are few left around to do that now - that is the case in most big cities - Bristol, Liverpool, Manchester
Travellers are highlighted because they are an easy target.
We had dealings for a time with a Travellers organisation in Wordsworth who had a solicitor working on their behalf (voluntarily)
Locals had complained about the rubbish that accumulated around the site and it was found that the bulk of it (old furniture and fridges mainly) had been dumped by locals who had taken the opportunity to dupm their unwanted rubbish on the Travellers site
The incident was fully covered and exposed by the local press, thanks to an enlightened editor.
Travellers accumulate rubbish naturally, as we all do, because many local firms refuse to handle it as they handle settled rubbish.
Waste disposal is a massive HUMAN problem - not a Travellers one.
NOT A TRAVELLER IN SIGHT
"SOME BLAME TRAVELLERS" SCAPEGOATING
And you racist scumbags try to lay the law down on Ansisemitism - what are you on!!!
Keith
Neither Livingstone or Shah were guilty of Antisemitism - neither attacked the Jewish people and no definition other than attacks on Jews is valid (as Eric Pickles pointed out)
Livingstone may have been insensitive and stupid when he reminded us of the historical facts surrounding THE ZIONISTS - NOT THE JEWISH PEOPLE and the Nazis, but that is not being antisemitic.
Einstein made the same points, groups like 'THE REAL TORAH' have it as part of their policy....
Many other Jews have taking it far further by suggesting that Zionism not only co-operated with the Nazis, (some say, to save Jewish lives, a did the Catholic Church in Italy), but are echoing Nazi policies in their behaviour towards the Palestinians.
Shah may have been stupid - but again, she did not attack the Jews.
She took a suggestion made by Jewish intellectual, Norman Finklestein and offered it as a solution to the current deadlock
The bum-wipe press where fully aware of this when they claimed she invented the solution - they even used Finklestein's map to smear Shah.
AS hard as you try, you will never make a case until you produce attacks on Jews - Israel isn't The Jewish People, Zionism is a political philosophy - it isn't The Jewish People.
It seems your "serious problem of antisemitism within the Labourt Party has narrowed down to two doubtfuls out of - how many members?
Yep - as serious as that!!!
Jim Carroll