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Thread #161452 Message #3856687
Posted By: Jim Carroll
23-May-17 - 06:02 AM
Thread Name: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
"Goldman was an enemy of Ben-Gurion."
No he was't
"After the war he worked actively with David Ben-Gurion towards the creation of Israel,[28] although he, with Moshe Shertok, advised Ben-Gurion, in vain, that the declaration of independence be delayed in order to allow more time for reaching a diplomatic entente with the Arabs.[29][30][31] He was concerned that an Arab-Israeli war would break out after the British left their Mandate and the State of Israel was proclaimed.[citation needed]"
You are making this up - why should you do this - thetorical question - you can't stop lying through your teeth
Even if he was he would not make such a thing up publicly - a leading and respected Zionist lying about a respected Jewish Zionist leader - are you completely insane
Zionists have intended to drive out the Arabs as far back as THeodor Hertzl - whose quote you chose to ignore
The other quote from Ben Gurion regarding driving out Arabs comes fro a letter to his son in 1937
Now respond to everything, not just the bits you think you can wriggle around
Some more quotes for you to ignore or deny
"Ben-Gurion said yesterday that he was prepared to accept the [Peel partition] proposal of the Royal commission but on two conditions: [Jewish] sovereignty and compulsory transfer ..... As for the compulsory transfer-- as a member of Kibbutz Ramat Hakovsh [founded in 1932 in central Palestine] I would be very pleased if it would be possible to be rid of the pleasant neighborliness of the people of Miski, Tirah, and Qalqilyah." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 70)
"With regard to the refugees, we are determined to be adamant while the war lasts. Once the return tide starts, it will be impossible to stem it, and it will prove our undoing. As for the future, we are equally determined to explore all possibilities of getting rid, once and for all, of the huge [Palestinian] Arab minority [referring to the Palestinian Israeli citizens of Israel] which originally threatened us. What can be achieved in this period of storm and stress [referring to the 1948 war] will be quite unattainable once conditions get stabilized. A group of people [headed by Yosef Weitz] has already started working on the study of resettlement possibilities [for the Palestinian refugees] in other lands . . . What such permanent resettlement of 'Israeli' Arabs in the neighboring territories will mean in terms of making land available in Israel for settlement of our own people requires no emphasis." (Benny Morris, p. 149-150)
"I imagine that the INTENTION is to get rid of them. The interests of security demand that we get rid of them." (1949, The First Israelis, p. 28)
Ben-Gurion commented on the proposed Peel Commission Partition plan as follows in 1937:
"We must EXPEL ARABS and take their places .... and, if we have to use force-not to dispossess the Arabs of the Negev and Transjordan, but to guarantee our own right to settle in those places-then we have force at our disposal." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 66).,
Jim Carroll