"You were not there in person yourself either, Stu. By your own reckoning that makes you just as unqualified to tell us who gets it or who doesn't as the rest of us."

Yeah, you're right. But I've talked to people directly involved, not got my information from the media. I don't say this gives me any special insight, just that this thread has become the usual echo chamber of bullshit discussing stuff that would be better on a thread of it's own.

How are Manchester and surrounds coping? As it always does, with no bullshit and lots of spirit.