I'm sorry that people aren't talking about it in precisely the terms you want, Stu. but maybe its the terms they need to think of it in.

Because you know, I believe some people find it easier to accept that these terrible happening are part of some great conspiracy that we can legislate against. The sheer senselessness of those murders is hard to understand.

There was a programme on TV this morning on PBS about the Lincoln assasination.

What was very obvious that most of the people who got hanged had no real wish to be involved. there was a conspiracy but it was in the head of one very disturbed individual. Most of the people in the group enjoyed talking about being terrorists - but only two actually did any terrorising.

I think thus it is. Think of all the bloodcurdling Irish rebel ballads and their calls for vengeance. few people have got the real desire for actual homicide. And they probably would have been murderers in any walk of life. Products of a society which couldn't find a role for them that satisfied their desire to be                        important.