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Thread #161905   Message #3861524
Posted By: Jim Carroll
18-Jun-17 - 03:58 AM
Thread Name: BS:Mass murder of defenceless civilians-Korea 1951
Subject: RE: BS: Mass murder of defenceless civilians
"I recall Jim Carroll posting song lyrics from an anti-Semitic song with no provocation that I could see in another thread. "
The only Antisemitic song I have posted was written by a man named Scottish Unionist MP Archibald Ramsay.
Inless you have forgotten why it was posted, it is extremely dishonest of you to claim it was "unprovoked"
I had raised the question of antisemitism in Wartime Britain and related the story of the Members of Parliament who, when the news of the Holocaust began trickling into Britain, put the repots down to "ies invented by whingeing Yids"
Keith leapt to the defence of these gallant gentlemen and in his inimitable manner, claimed no such comment had been made - he persisted (as he does) and I produced information on 'THE RIGHT CLUB , made up of British politicians, businessmen and dignitaries and their publication, 'The Red Book' which included vitriolic anti-semitic poems poems written by one of Britain's great and good, Ramsey - the poem I produced "unprovoked!!!" was one of these.
Keith' also in his inimitable way, continued to defend these people and claim the remark I had raised was never made - his antisemitism is palpable
In recent arguments on the Labour Party's so-called antisemitism, he claimed that the reason we didn't know the nature of the "antisemitism" supposedly displayed widely by Labour \party members was that Jewish politicians ahad entered into a pact of silence to protect "th party they loved" - a 'Jewish plot', no less.
Keith and Bobad are bosom buddies.
You people make me sick
I have never uttered a word of abuse against the Jewish people, my family were part of the pre-war anti fascist fight against the rise of antisemitism in Britain (to the point of being arrested and jailed), my father went to Spain and when he was wounded and imprisoned, shared cells with Jewish fighters who had joined the fight against Franco (I men some of them at his funeral)
I worked alongside Jewish left-wingers in Manchester and became friendly with holocaust survivors (this was 20 yers after the war)
You you shower of extremeist right-wingers call me an antisemite because I am appalled (as is a large slice of the world) at the manner in which various Israeli regimes have destroyed the dream we all had of a Jewish homeland and turned it into an ethnic cleansing nightmare
Your world is one of "self hating Jews" (one of the most antisemitic terms I have ever encountered) who oppose this appalling regime and a regime which rgards any opposition to their actions as a betrayal of the Jewish people (that is classically fascist by definition, by the way - making the will of the people subservient to the interests of the state).   
You interests are in defending the extremist right-wing politics of the regime - you have not a shred of concern for the welfare of Jews as a whole.
You are extremist in your views and totally intolerant and dishonest in your behaviour
I am neither an antisemite, nor am I a "Communist apologist"
I have an interest in 20th century politics and have spent most of my life pursuing it
I am happy to discuss those interests with most people - you you squalid crowd have just been stuck off that list
Bobad is a cowardly troll who hysterically screams "Jew Hater" whenever a word of criticism is uttered against his favourite right-wing regime and now we seem to have a new kid on the block in Robo
I repeat my offer - if you can produce one single example of my attacking the Jewish People I will make a generous donation to the charity of your choice
The right wing mob who rule Israel at present no longer represent the Jewish People, they have denigrated the Jewish Dream of a Homeland by turning it into a monotheisic state and gradually evicted those who do not
live up to their ideal, burdering and destroying in order to do so.
THe world has been here before -m we fought a world war to prevent it happening in Europe
Criticising the Israeli regime is not antisemitic - it says so in all the definitions
Live with it
I leave you with your appallingly dishonest world divided into supporters of modern Israeli politics and "self-hating Jews"
Jim Carroll