You vote whether to go back into a murderous war after you have just waked away - don't be daft!!
This was a revolution
The last revolution in Russia was in 1905 when peaceful protests led to mass slaughter
The Germans transported Lenin back to Russia as part of their war effort - nothing to do with politics
You are still skating around the moral right and wrong of this debate
Put simply - Capitalism is based on acquisition and conquest and it led to a World War which in turn led to a revolt by the people who bore the brunt of the consequences of that war
The ideals of the revolution were to end the divisions in society and build a fairer one
Whether that worked or not is immaterial - those divisions remain in our society; the Soviet Union caught up with the west in half a century - from a semi-feudal empite to an advanced economy with a superior education system based on education for all and massive scientific and medical advances for all
It took a semi-socialist government thirty years in Britain to establish a free health service, and that has now been undermined to the point of destruction by right wing governments since
America hasn't even got off the starting blocks in that respect - there, they check your wallet before they feel your pulse.
Neither side comes out with vclean hands as far as injustices and mistakes are concerned, and we are still plundering our way through the third world to keep our home comforts
I'm afraid it is you who is dodging the main points - but if that't the way you want to play it..... fine by me   
From your 'coffee house reference,Ia assume you are in the U.S.
I suggest you examine the political and social implications of the fire in London.... greed and neglect of teh poor in all it's glory
Watch this space
Jim Carroll