Well jimmy and chunderboy you both seem determined to wreck this thread(as usual) So let us look at some recent posting to see what fine fellows you are:

Shaw a recent post,"Posting about food is deliberate and intentional thread drift, designed to irritate but not to goad into emotional responses, therefore it is not trolling" (I suspect many would dispute that statement)

Jimmy a recent post. "Now fuck off and provide some evidence"

Shaw a recent post."Leave the Chardonnay for the kids and the Essex girls. About your level, actually. Someone's got to drink it I suppose. Oaky whites? I puke in your general direction."

Shaw."You're a waste of space. And unfunny to boot."(definitely hit a nerve there!)

Shaw your patronising, schoolmaster, know it all approach simply makes you look even sillier than you are.

Now I suggest you both troll off and let the serious discussion continue.