I wasn't insulting you, you said you didn't see what the connection is between Trump and Brexit was, I offered my opinion. At the root core of both of their right-wing ideologies is divisiveness and xenophobia, blaming 'the other'. However the 'other' is not Poles, Asians, Mexicans or Syrian refugees, it's the hedge fund mangers, city wonks (Farage et al) and corporations paying no tax whilst our government s wreck our healthcare services and make us work until we fall over dead. No retirement fair many of us plebs!


"Its about bringing to heel forces in our community which are beyond our control whilst we are in the EU."

What forces? The democratically elected EU parliament? You don't have that control, you're never going to have it whilst Brexiters and Trumpers are in charge as they don't want us to have it. Why would they? They're sorted already, and that sort of wealth and power needs protecting from the mob. Best make the mob think you're on their side. These people don't believe in the common good at all, they are protecting their own interests and that of their global capitalist/establishment muckers, and the Trump and Brexit voters have given them a mandate to do so. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT US.


"The demagogues you stand in awe of are the economists who brought us monetarism and fucked the industrial base of the country."

Not true in the slightest. So far from the truth it's laughable. I'm not sure even to which 'demagogues' you're referring to... not the one who stirs hatred with his nasty posters of refugees, the one standing in front of bus lying through his over-privileged teeth or the one who blames Mexicans for his countries ills and hates LBGT people.


"Although it seems to attract people with a pathological need to insult."

Like I said, I was addressing your opinion not you personally; I'm talking about the leaders of Brexit and Trump's cronies, not the ordinary folk who voted for it for understandable reasons (though I believe they were lied to). All this is also directly relevant to Trump's appalling speech to the scouts; the current situations in the US and UK haven't arisen in isolation, they are part of a crisis threatening to engulf all of the 'western' powers as they struggle to deal with a world that is leaving them behind as their myopic leaders and press barons decide to look after themselves and to hell with everyone else.