So, Eliza, you accuse Steve of being "increasingly confrontational, personally insulting and stroppy" yet have said nothing of the following unprovoked attacks?

Shaw the simple reason that I would like to have the meat labelled as halal is that 20% of halal meat is slaughtered without prior stunning.
Perhaps if you read the links you also could be aware of this salient point.
I assume you are either a vegan or complete hypocrite.
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So gnome you feel you know better than the FVE. Can you state your qualifications for such a statement or are you simply blowing smoke as usual?
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Shaw you can use google as well as I can. Do your own homework!
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D the g do you actually read what is posted?
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well shaw and gnome lets have some of your counter arguments with the scientific evidence to support it. Chapter and verse if you don't mind. Interesting how you twist the argument.


Are you sure you want to tie your colours to this particular mast?

All I have ever said on this thread is that I am unsure whether stunning is any less painful than cutting the throat in a proper and controlled way. That view is backed up by articles I have posted and by the experience of others. I have never said that I am sure either way but have pointed out that anyone who eats meat has no right to condemn the slaughter methods of others. Slaughter is slaughter. It all causes pain. If that upsets your sensibilities then give up meat. But don't shoot the messenger.

DtG