I too am sad to see Sen's voice of reason depart - though I would point out that discussions like this inevitably end it tears if they rise above agreement for agreement's sake
The pubs used to put up signs saying "no politics, no religion, no football" when I was growing up in Liverpool
When people feel strongly about serious subjects, they will express themselves in strong terms which can turn nasty
It's interesting to note that two of the worst offenders on this forum turn up to pay their respects, carefully distancing themselves from their own behaviour
Doesn't hold out much hope for th future, does it?
Sorry Sen
Jim Carroll