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Thread #162769   Message #3876244
Posted By: Jim Carroll
10-Sep-17 - 03:57 AM
Thread Name: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
By the way Nigel
"not secure a living off child support "
This has always been a slanderous Tory myth aimed directly at the poorer people of Britain - a smear on the British people by the privileged and comfortable - our "betters"
Family allowance is pitifully small in Britain - no family could possibly get a "secure a living" from it
"A family with two children can claim nearly £1,800 a year in Child Benefit. In the 2017-18 tax year, you can claim: £20.70 per week for your first child. £13.70 a week for any further children."
The purpose of family support is to keep a poor family's head above water, not to "secure a living" - it is to stay alive

This from the Financial Times, April 4th 2017
The UK government will this week stop giving extra benefits to families when they have a third child, to encourage people to "consider whether they can afford to support additional children".
Until now, tax credits — which provide extra money for unemployed and low-income families — have increased by up to £2,780 a year for each extra child. From April 6, families will not receive extra income for third children born on or after this date. The restrictions will be extended to all new claimants from November 2018 onwards, regardless of when their children were born.
The policy is ultimately expected to save taxpayers about £3bn a year but it will take time for the savings to build up. Families will continue to receive child benefit, worth £700 a year for each second and subsequent child, provided neither parent earns more than £50,000 a year.
The new policy, announced by George Osborne in the July 2015 budget, is a change of direction for the UK.
Under successive Labour governments, between 1997 and 2010, support for families with children through the tax and benefit system increased significantly in a concerted effort to reduce child poverty. Support for larger families grew more quickly than support for families with only one or two children.
The tax credit cuts for larger families contribute to the Conservative government's manifesto promise to reduce welfare spending by £12bn by the end of the parliament. A secondary motivation is "explicitly . . . to affect the decisions low-income families make about how many children to have", said Andrew Hood of the Institute for Fiscal Studies think-tank.
Mr Osborne said the changes would make the tax credit system "fairer and more affordable" by ensuring that people receiving tax credits "face the same financial choices about having children as those supporting themselves solely through work".
But Alison Garnham, chief executive of the Child Poverty Action Group, said the changes were "pernicious".
"Our analysis shows another 200,000 children will be in poverty once universal credit [which is replacing tax credits and three other means tested benefits] is fully rolled out, directly because of this cut," she said. "Surely children should not have their life chances damaged because of the number of siblings they have."
A third of children already in poverty live in families with three or more children.

Your squalid party really is the pits
On the one hand, you have a bunch who are forcing cuts on family sizes by withdrawing support - in esssence a cull.
On the other, you are considering electing a leader who believes that women who might fall pregnant by accident or through rape should be forced to go through her pregnancy and bear her child
This feller applies this to cases where it is known in advance that some children will be born with physical defects or that forcing a woman through an unplanned pregnancy could effect either her mental or physical health - or both, which could add enormously to the cost of rearing such a child
What kind of people are you?
Perhaps your government has in mind what happened in Spain after the Civil War there when the victorious party set up a clandestine industry to steal children from Republicans and give them to the more deserving Franco supporters!
It is estimated that up to 300,00 newborn children were stolen from their families and sold to wealthy ones - they were known as "Los niños robados del franquismo" [The kidnapped children of Francoism]
Now that would be a lucrative industry to help Britain stand on its own two feet in the Brave New World of Brexitism
Jim Carroll