"That was from Jim Carroll, as usual giving absolutely no way for the reader to identify what the hell he's quoting."
Totally unfair Jack - I usually take pains to provide actual links, though I do read a great deal and many of the arguments I put up are my own off the top of my head - not quotes.
These subjects interest me enough for me to know a little about them and not have to drag them up on the spot, as is the practice of some - I've even spoke publicly and written on some of them in the past.
I find myself doing that quite a lot nowadays.
Actually, it wasn't from me Jack, which was why I put it in quotations
I was quoting Iain's earlier posting in order to establish where he was going in this discussion - I'm still not much the wiser, though others seem to have decided this is an opportunity to reopen attacks the Muslim religion
Perhaps you should read what people put up more carefully Jack!
"I cannot see any mention of religion, "
Only by taking out of context and ignoring the thousands of acres of space that have been taken up quoting the Quran proving that to be the source of these crimes (still by a few criminals), can you possibly claim that this in not religious - of course it is, and always has been
One regular poster once put up for of the largest cut-'n-pastes this forum has ever seen, dating back to pre-Christian times and dredged up from some of the most extremist sites, setting out to show that Islam is a degenerate religion and has been the cause of terrorism and oppression for millennia   
The 'implant' quote appeared on the same thread.
As far as I'm concerned, the role of all religions, Christianity included, should be one of providing spiritual guidance to those who seek it voluntarily - once it exceeds those bounds it becomes intrusive, divisive, and eventually dangerous to the extent of being lethal - as it is now
What we are seeing here is a "my product is better than your product" battle for the religious high ground.
When it reaches that stage, a plague on all your houses
Jim Carroll