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Thread #162666 Message #3879990
Posted By: Jim Carroll
03-Oct-17 - 06:38 AM
Thread Name: New Book: Folk Song in England
Subject: RE: New Book: Folk Song in England
C'mon Vic - it's like waiting for the other shoe to drop Wail I'm waiting, perhaps I might proffer a possible scenario for traditional songs on broadsided I Writer bases himself in a pub that is frequented by countrymen in for the markets, or Merchant seamen, or fishermen, or soldiers and either sits in on singing sessions, roughly scribbling down plots, some words, a verse to give a form - enough to make a full song - then takes what he has off and makes a song of it to suit the tastes of his customers Only a guess, but so is everything else so far I've always been fascinated with David Buchan's theory of their being bo set ballad texts, just plots and commonplaces - I don't think he presented his case too well, but I think it possible I watched MacColl as he grew old and began to forget words, but I never once saw him dry up - he was so familiar with the stories of his songs as to make up the memory gaps as he went along As a MacColl buff I was familiar enough to notce when he did this - a coupple of times either he or Peggy caught my eye and acknowledged that I'd noticed This is what many singers did If I get time later, I'll describe the two examples we have of how songs were made, along with the songs "Fascinating account, Jim" Thank's Brian, there really plenty mor where that came from Jim