Dave the Gnome,

You have missed the point.

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from Iain's clicky:
" Scotland has about 75,000 licensed firearms and shotguns. England and Wales even more, with about 1.8 million in circulation. And these guns have impact."

so, UK 1,875.000 firearms, 30 homicides by guns 0.000016 killed per gun
USA 300,000,000+ firearms 5100 homicides by guns <0.000017 killed per gun

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The number of people murdered PER GUN in the UK is not much different from the number per gun murdered in the US.


from Backwoodsman:"Here in the UK, as Acorn says, gun-licensing is very strictly controlled, and the use to which a gun can be put is very limited. So there are comparatively few guns held by civilians, compared to the US."


Yet there are just about as many murders PER GUN in the UK as in the USA- So obviously all that careful vetting of gun owners has no effect.

" It is the legislation that allows free access to firearms to anyone and therefore to more nutcases."

The PRESENT UK legislation allows the SAME PERCENTAGE of nutcases ( out of all allowed gun owners) to get the guns- They restrict ALL access to firearms, but do NOT reduce the murders PER GUN.