I'm sure its khandu who has all the loquacity as a compensation for the envy he feels over his own inadequacy. He knows that in the department of joint endowments, I am better funded and indeed just recently purchased the "Super 2000 Roll-A-Matic" to store "Joe Smackers" when the lad is not in use. The nice feature here is the drag setting on the reel which keeps my tool from falling into the water when whizzing off a high bridge. Actually, the water isn't too bad but when Joe sinks to the bottom and gets muddy....well, that's a real mess which the reel drag can prevent.Spaw