"Of course, that's not what the Jesuits mean."
That is how it is taken and basically, that's the way it is - or was, till thee chi rape scandal undermined the power of the church
"But yet, Raggytash and Jim Carroll and Steve Shaw continue to pour shame on Catholics"
Please to not stoop to untruths Joe - these are criticisms of the behaviour of the Church - it has nothing whatever to do with "Catholics" or even their beliefs
If it had , Id be throwing stones though most of my relatives and neighbours windows.
Are you really seeking "understanding and tolerance" for the way these people behaved given the way many churchmen are still behaving towards the victim of these crimes?
Jim Carroll