Kat.. can I state the obvious? You can open a room for your clique anytime you want to... there is nothing stopping you from doing that. You can open a room just for Mudcat women... You can open a room for Mudcat Bodhran players and one for Mudcat elitist groupies... Nothing stopping you at all; and I dont care... But Mudcat Song Circle has been very interesting and refreshing and open....now we have another room, a closed room, and I dont want to open it and not the other; or try to be an admin for both sides. Its bad enough trying to look after one room never mind three.. Thank God for Bigchuck running the concerts....Step up to the mike please and run your own shows in your own rooms....I dont care anymore. Honest!