"We're still in the process of learning."
What kind of pathetic question is that Joe
I have never been to Vietnam, but I don't need tyo have to realise that pouring burningpetrol onto peasants is evil
There has been enough information streaming out of Israel since it was founded to make up your mind on what is happening there
How many Knesset Council meetings did you visit, how many prisons did you visit, did you get a chance to drop in on - did you get a chance to drop in on Mordachai Vannunu while you were there....?
There is a world-wide movement against what is happening at present and it has taken over 100 vetoes at the UN by your government to keep the Israeli regime out of the International criminal courts for their bahaviour
You really seem to have fallen in love with this regime
People visit these countries and are shown what they are allowed to be shown, and some see what they want to see
My late friend, Tom Munnelly, a humanist with no strong political links, attended the International Ballad Conference in Jerusalem some time in the late 1980s - we still have a post card from him which says simply "Beam me up Scotty"
He later told us of witnessing the smartly uniformed young men constantly humiliating, stopping and searching Palestinian men women and children, lines of frightened Arab children being spat on and dodging the taunts and stones of their Israeli contemporaries, the racist comments from virtually every Israeli the talked to.... he said the atmosphere was that of a World War Two film outside the conference meetings.
Tou have had opportunity enough here to join discussions on Sabra Shatila (3,500 refugees massacred, women raped and left with their throats cut, pregnant women disemoelled and the foeteses left lying beside their corpses... three days and nights worth of this overseen by the Israeli troops who had armed the killers, transported them to the site and provided illumination so the killing could go on day and night)
The man responsible became Prime Minister - obviously another of your "bad apples"
How man discussions have we had on the incursions into Gaza, the civilian slaughter, the destruction of homes, the Israeli death-squads mopping up the survivors, the chemical and anti-personell weapons, the massive slaughter of civilians and wholesale destruction of homes, schools and hospitals
We forget all this because Joe Offer has just come back from his trip and wound the place wonderful
You want to know what is happening in the Middle East at present, go read it up - anything from 'Amnesty' or the United Nations will suffice
You might start here (can't blue clickie)
https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-africa/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/
Enjoy, if you have the balls to read it through
Sorry Joe - I don't "enjoy" that sort of thing
Jim Carroll