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Thread #163483   Message #3902772
Posted By: Jim Carroll
30-Jan-18 - 04:00 AM
Thread Name: BS: Trump Station in Old Jerusalem
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Station in Old Jerusalem
"disreputable" or whatever other names Jim Carroll called it."
Instead of referring to "what I called it" inderectly Joe, why not trying to address the points I made head-on; they are either accurate or wrong, simple as that, but they are specific - a million miles from your own amorphous defence of Israel
Try again; why not read this through and see if it rings any bells.
INEQUALITY REPORT
Once again I find it necessary to make my own attitude to Israel clear
All my life I have been brought up to respect the idea of a Jewish State
My father went to Spain when his family realised from information being passed on to them from Jewish refugees living in close to where they lived in Liverpool
Politically, members of my family associated with Jewish activists and were part of the anti-Fascist demonstrations ahet took place in the thirties - my grandmother was arrested for throwing a stone that hit Mosly at one of his street meetings (a good Catholic lady who told the arresting officer "that stone was guided by the hand of God")
My father's brother was a regular soldier and was present at the opening of one of the concentration camps - a traumatic experience
He later went on to serve in British Palestine and was among the last to leave when the British handed over power - he described hearing the gunfire and explosions as Arabs here cleared out of their homes to make room for the new settlers.
I first became aware of what was happening in Israel from Jewish friends in Manchester, mainly left-wing, who had become increasingly disturbed at the behaviour of the Jewish administration towards the Arab population
After a visit to the film, Shoah, my girl-friends mother, a Holocaust survivor, exploded in anger one night and called them "a bunch of ****** fascists" - it led to the break-up in my relationship with her daughter - I was iunable to get my head around the concept of a Jewish fascist, knowing what I knew about their experience in the camps.
The mother once spoke to me at length about their experiences and left me with a saying that has influenced my life ever since "Never again - not to anybody"
THat has had a major influence on my attitude to what is happening - in the world, not just Israel, ever since
So when the scumbags fling around their accusations of antisemitism and refuse to debate honestly, (as you are doing here), it acts as confirmation of what I believe I have learned from people who know better
Jim Carroll