I can discuss all that with you any time, Iains, but I'm afraid I can't accept judging from appearances. You may think the people you see outside Asda are from that social housing. Well I frequent an Asda surrounded by social housing, I'm a scruff and I often come out of that Asda with my wagon full of cheap plonk on offer and other unhealthy-looking stuff. I then load it into my beaten-up, ancient Ford Focus that's just about been round the clock. But I also support my local butcher, fishmonger, newsagent and greengrocer, I grow my own veg as much as I can and (apart from my state pension) I'm not on any benefits. And that Asda is 25 miles from my house. Apart from the fact that I don't hang around outside with a fag in my gob, I'm indistinguishable from the people Senoufou describes. Which is why judging from appearances, which you and keberoxu appear to be defending, isn't that safe.

And I see no reason why people on low incomes shouldn't have flat-screen tellies, X-Boxes for the kids, smartphones, tattoos and all the rest of the paraphernalia that capitalism shoves in our faces. Some of the rather arrogant better-off who criticise the poor for such things think nothing of parading around wearing hundreds of pounds' worth of jewellery every day or spending half an hour every morning plastering their faces with expensive makeup and the rest of their bodies with expensive wrinkle-reducer that's as much use as snake oil. And somebody must be buying those twelve-quid bottles of wine I see in Bude Sainsbury's. It ain't me, that's for sure, and I'll guarantee it ain't those claimants either. So easy to condemn from a place of near-luxury. Just what the Tories want us to do! Divide and rule!