McGRATH, You seem not to have understood my point, the no campaigners are campaigning for something that is undone by the amendment 13, the no campaigners by so doing are facilitating later abortions, Ido not agree with their thinking ,but perhaps they should be campaigning for the removal of the amendment 13,,the ones i have talked to dont even know what amendment 13 is, talk about dogmatic and ignorant[unknowing]