Joe: Fiction is fiction and you either can't or won't do fact. Doesn't matter which.

Dalillama: No, just that Joe never saw anything like what he said and the trio's motivation was to promote a lethaly inferior ag system.

Now we waffle, move the target and change the subject in a half dozen ways but the bottom line is still a mean spirited fiction.

Union activism has left tonnes of crops to rot in the field on purpose. Vegetable oil and wine are being denatured by the tank car every season. I've never met the U.S. field worker who would suffer an Amazon warehouse for five minutes nor healthcare pro who thinks hunger is a bigger problem than obesity. So what?

On topic, the folk history of the Yank's so-called creosote dumps is not reliable in letter or spirit.

Good thread.