That's the trouble Keith. It is all about you.

It would be nice to have a debate on this subject, because there have opinions expressed here that I passionately disagree with.

However it always seems to degenerate into a weird shit slinging match.

The Ist world War, The IRA, Jeremy Corbyn....whatever the subject.

I remember Christopher Isherwood said about the surrealist phase of Edward Upward's writing, whatever the subject, whatever the characters - he always seemed to be in the same landscape.

theres a certain deja vu. Whatever we say in this in this conversation - its going to be ignored while you slug it out.