And I fully agree with you, Steve. Those who know they can manipulate the participants to trash the thread are the most guilty of the mess that happens. When possible the problematic posts are removed to let a thread continue, but since people continue to feed those trolls, the topic is such a tangle there is no way to clean out the trash without turning it into nonsense. Another goal of the mudcat (apparently) sanctioned trolls. Here's hoping their days are numbered.