"No attitude involved Leveller, merely recalling what I have seen.

They do not attend Folk Clubs as they do not get paid what they are told on their courses to expect to be paid.

They do not attend Folk Clubs because they do not want, and are not prepared to listen to others do or perform."

:) :) :)!You really do make me laugh, Observer (was that ever a misnomer!). You're so pompous but, as others have said, you've absolutely no idea of how and where the majority of young people make or enjoy music. Who is this 'they' you're talking about? (OK, you probably once talked to a folk performer who'd done a degree course and wanted paying as he/she intended to make it a career). Perhaps you need to get out more and talk to some real kids instead of trying to cite your prejudices as fact. On the other hand, don't bother - if you've nothing good or encouraging to say, they really won't be interested.