mod - fair enough.. but the post Date: 25 Aug 18 - 07:06 AM was a valid thread relevant contribution..
So I'm resubmittting it...

"So a smug antagonistic anonymous GUEST tries to establish punkier than thou street cred
by claiming to have seen the Pistols...

They'd be by far the most mainstream corporate commercialised sell out punk rock band of all time...

Now consider how that might relate to this thread, and the OPs quetion...

"How much do is it now propelled by Commercial pressures and what are the advantages and disadvantages of Commercialisation"

The Sex Pistols and their duller witted plastic punk 13 year old fanboys
were as far removed from the grassroots amateur punk/indie culture
as The Mumfords are from real trad folk...


Me and my mates were 18 year old small town provincial college kids,
who actively established bands, fanzines, youth theatre and arts projects,
and a long lasting network of musicians gig sharing collectives and co-ops..

all for eff all remuneration or glory... just like trad folkies used to do,
and is what is at debate in this thread...

1970s punk and folk scenes were parallell and often interlinked...

If that makes me an intellectual... I've been called much worse by far better people..."