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Thread #164711   Message #3946230
Posted By: Jim Carroll
25-Aug-18 - 03:47 PM
Thread Name: UK Folk Revival 2018
Subject: RE: UK Folk Revival 2018
Back from Dublin in one piece despite the efforts of the Poe aand his entourage

"From the very 1954 definition that traditionalists set such great store by.
It's always been my experience that the only people ws set enough store by it out those like yourself who mention it to disparage it - most of the people I know treat is as a definition in need of repair - nothing more
As nobody else has ever come up with another, it does as a astandby
It would be appreciated that those with an obsession with '54 would get over it and not try and infect the rest us us with it.

I've just been accused of misrepresenting what people say (by the poster who gets his rocks off by deninrating elderly dead singers)
"Jim. But you say that you know what the folk culture of our islands is, and all these other people (many of us having spent a lifetime in folk clubs) know nowt."
Where have I said this Al I don't say you don't know - I say you have never come up with an alternative definition - your music is not that with I have known (probably for a lot longer than most people here and is represented in literature that goes back at least a century and recordings that go back nearly as long and chan be clearly found registered under the title (established in the 1830s as "folk"
The term is internationally applied to songs made and sung by the people to represent their lives, thoughts and aspirations
If you want to tag a pop song to that title, tell us why and where it has merited the title
The club scene sank because people began using the term as a meaningless catchphrase so you never knew what you were going to hear when you turned up   
That's a world world away from "knowing nowt" - it's cynical misrepresentation because some people cant bother their arse to think up a term for the music they want to sing - a hostile takeover
If you are going to quiote me, do so accurately
Jim