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Thread #165019   Message #3955858
Posted By: DMcG
10-Oct-18 - 09:38 AM
Thread Name: BS: The political leanings of Mudcat
Subject: RE: BS: The political leanings of Mudcat
Joe's comments may painful to hear, but I don't think they are too far from true. Please bear in mind he criticised both sides.

Dave said it was all about tolerance. Well, maybe. But I am reminded of an Alex Glasgow song which was superficially in praise of the English, but was actually a searing attack on a form of hypocrisy that we are all prone to. Amongst other things (warning! upcoming racism, but it is there for a reason), it says the Englishman "tolerates some wogs". Now 'tolerance' is the lowest level you can get to below rejection: it is far short of acceptance, or mutual recognition, or enthusiasm. We tolerate pain, and going to the dentist. We do not 'tolerate' friends and partners - it would be an inadequate description of the relationship. Then, Alex's next word 'some': we don't even tolerate all of them. Just the ones we deem acceptable. Our decision, not theirs. And then the casual and unthinking racism, which is far too common everywhere. Three hammer blows, in three words.

I have always thought it a good working practice to assume that whoever I speak to (or type at) is not stupid. Whatever opinions they have come to, there are experiences or ideas that got them there. They may choose to play games instead of explaining them, which makes a reasonable discussion impossible, but if we and they are prepared to listen and think it can be worth while for both sides of the fence.

So can we be accused of "tolerating some right/left-wingers"? I think so.