people like holy joe have studied child abuse for a long time with no answers,because they are worshipping evil and calling it god. they are the enablers who let it happen. they have to be jailed. the abusers have to be jailed. yes serious unishment and not rehabiulitation for the irredeemable because that is what they are irredeemably evil becuase they have spent lifetimes, and centuries looking evil in the face and colcluding it is just a conundrum, a puzzler. the real puzzler is why any one belives in the mad god and the evil churches.