Dave talks about 'getting out of the water' - I don't have to; almost everything that interests me is in there with me.

And there we have it, Jim. There are many who like to swim in the same pool all the time just as there are those who like the sea, lakes and rivers as well. There are also those who cannot swim at all. It is all about personal taste and what interests you. Peoples tastes and interests are very personal and to decry them as being somehow not as good as your own may generate the type of rancour that we sometimes see on here. Not that I am saying you do that but when you use phrases like "wannabe pop stars who could't make it on the mainstream scene" to describe other peoples heroes you must understand that it is a very contentious and mainly false statement. I don't believe for one minute that anyone who performs music is in it just for the money. They do it out of passion and love of music. That they managed to make money out of is largely due to being exceptionally good at what they and being in the right place at the right time.