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Thread #165738   Message #3979237
Posted By: Iains
26-Feb-19 - 03:41 PM
Thread Name: BS: george orwell comment
Subject: RE: BS: george orwell comment
"A fact that lefties refuse to admit."

Orwell admitted it - or was he not a 'lefty'?

A bit more complex than that. I think his quoted socialism was a utopian ideal tinged with a hatred of communism and fascism. He said, that Socialists did not claim that they could make the world perfect, but they were trying to improve it. He also argued that if there were no more very rich and no more very poor people, such a society would still have a vast number of other problems to solve, because a society which is balanced in wealth, is not a perfect society. In Orwell's point of view most of the labour parties of Europe were just parties in the hand of trade unions, that were concerned just with local problems and especially wages. I would say his major point was that when negotiation fails brute force is required or else you acquiesce and succumb, or gentle illusions can can be allowed a superficial face because dark realities can be brought into play to maintain the illusion. You can probe his meaning on many levels. I think his politics was complex and not easily pigeon holed. I wonder what message/s he was trying to convey with his writings?