I think there is a value in concentrating on the future of Ireland, over on the Brexit thread. Obviously the past feeds into it, but I agree with Raggy that discussing Ireland's past can be a way of avoiding talking about its future. Separating the two is possible and, in my view, worthwhile. So my pennyworth is that this thread is a good way of stressing that both aspects are important, but they are not th2 sam2.