By the way, I'm neither immoderate (cheers, pfr) nor extremist (cheers, Nige). I'm a normal bloke who's worked in multiracial/multicultural communities for many years. What dosh I possess is kept in banks that don't bear close examination on ethical grounds. I'm a capitalist whether I like it or not. I was appalled by the sheer dishonesty about the way the referendum was foisted on us, appalled by the campaigns and appalled by the stupidity of the millions who were suckered into voting leave. I did my homework during the campaigns and came to the only remotely possible sane conclusion, from a position of the best level of knowledge (not received wisdom, not prejudice) I could muster, that anything other than a remain vote would be an absolute disaster for the country. Not thinking about meself (no need, as my house is paid for and my pensions are sorted), but slightly more worried about my two kids and my grandchild. Three years later, I'm even more worried. I was right about brexit, wasn't I. I get on pfr's tits even though we are on the same side. Tough shit. But I'm not on your side, Nigel. You are solidly on the wrong side, and you and your ilk worry me because you simply can never see it. That makes you the extremist, Nigel. Extremists like you are blinkered and totally resistant to change, even in the face of the bleedin' obvious, that brexit is a friggin' disaster in the making. But plough on, Nigel. You know you're right. Even when you're disastrously wrong. As you'll see once we plunge out of the EU.