"A Punter is not a word I like in relation to folk gatherings"

Immaterial to this - people going to a folk club are entitled to get what the club calls itself

People going to their Folk club will I suspect get what they are used to

How can you object to the word punter if you don't object to a club calling itself "folk" when it doesn't do just that ?

You still have NOT stated what YOU deem to be a Folk song ~ please I am confused by your lack of clarity

Naming a handful of clubs that do when the scene has diminished by at least a thousand is meaningless ~ WHEN did you last go to a Folk song gathering of any description and what is/was its format ?

I have told you that the Folk scene that you KNEW has changed as every thing does and the youngsters want what THEY want not the dinosaurs like you and me

Concerts are where people go to be sang to and entertained, at - as I said, the club scene has lost its grass roots aspect

~the CLUB scene may have but the broader scene has not lost its grass roots ~ they have and love to continue to sing traditional and similar songs

Any half decent scene can exist without guests or the occasional guest ~ totally agree!


The malaise has even spread to the researchers where folk aint folk anymore among them as well thanks to arbitrary re-definitions

What malaise? start thinking in terms of what we have NOW GOT ~ see what I say WHY we have the present scene! please

NOW Jim Carroll where should WE be? and what are YOU either wanting it to be or are YOU going to DO about it??

You really are quite tiresome now


Pretending that all is well isn't helping Ray

We have no control of time, progress or change Jim ~you cannot think that surely??

Ray