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Thread #166050   Message #3990489
Posted By: GUEST,Pseudonymous
03-May-19 - 04:25 AM
Thread Name: uk folk clubs high standard
Subject: RE: uk folk clubs high standard
While Jim may be right about the songs being 'given' by factory workers, it seems plain that at least some of the people he was involved with, some of the ones doing the 'taking', were 'professional' musicians and/or folklorists, with the Lloyd and Maccoll being examples.

Jim may not have liked electrified music, but some of this was successful and enjoyable and probably introduced people who would not have otherwise heard these songs to them. Fairport Convention and Steeleye Span being two examples of this. In my taste, preferable to the concertina warblings on some Lloyd recordings.

Lloyd was right at the heart of a commercial folk enterprise, as per his work with 'folkways'.

The image of the 'unfollowable electric soup' is not one of Jim's best, and certainly not fair to the two electric groups I have mentioned. Personally, I like soup anyway, so I don't see a problem.

When Walter Pardon was being taxied to various clubs I was wondering whether he appeared free, and who paid the petrol money. In any case, he can hardly have been described as a 'resident', he was a guest. And I doubt that his delivery would have lived up to Maccoll's prescriptions about how stuff should be sung. And that melodeon, hardly a traditional British instrument is it?