Mr Sandman, you have a point. But (and a previous post to this effect vanished) it was obvious from the moment you put up your post that Jim Carroll would be along to start an argument. I think Vic Smith correctly pointed out some features in Jim's approach to 'discussion', or perhaps 'battle' as this is how Jim seems to see it, winds people up. I agree that it is best to focus on what is positive. And there is a lot to be positive about.