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Thread #166789   Message #4019128
Posted By: Jim Carroll
14-Nov-19 - 11:28 AM
Thread Name: The current state of folk music in UK
Subject: RE: The current state of folk music in UK
"How is folk rock 'non narrative' Jim - the songs are the same so the narrative is the same surely? How is folk rock 'non narrative' Jim - the songs are the same so the narrative is the same surely? "
When the words are dominated by the accompaniment and the singer follow the music rather than making grammatical sense of the words it ceased to be narrative or even singing - it becomes a musical rendition
I have reservations about the example I put up, but at least you can follow the story and the emotion arising from the situation it describes
That's what makes folk song stand out
Once the objective of whoever created the song is abandoned it becomes something else - that's not a value judgement, by the way

Sorry P - I don't see how handing our music back to the industry we we used it to escape from is carrying on anything
I's not my work anyway - I dodn't make the songs, I just want to share them
Don't to think we've watched our songs handed over to Shirley Ellis abd Rod Stewart and the like only to see them be copyrighted, used as a vehicle for the artist, given a few minutes of fresh air and abandoned over and over and over again
Each time some eejit has yelled "look, folk song has come into its own" only to see the back of it when the next flavour-of-the-month comes along
Folk song is further from being a recognised part of British culture than it ever was
The media parades the few who have made it up the greasy pole as performing seals, without any attention being paid to the songs, who made them, why they were made and what part they played as history carriers
Tearing them from the club grass-roots is only going to hasten their disappearance and rob the enthusiasts of the social communication the folk scene provided
No internet presence is ever going to replace that
Jim